歌曲 / 歌词与中文翻译

Interview September 19TH 2014

Sopor Aeternus & the Ensemble of ShadowsListen on Apple Music

歌词与中文翻译

It's two o'clock in the morning.
现在是凌晨两点啦~
On the Friday the 19th september.
9月19日星期五
Ah,2014.
2014年
This is interview for the obskure magazine 23#.
这是obskure杂志的23号采访
and the question by Mr.Tassy.
问题来自塔西先生,嘻嘻
Question number one:
问题一:
You explain on your official site that MITTERNACHT and POETICA work very well together and are "related".
您在您的官方主页里提到的《午夜》和《诗意》显得益彰甚至有某种“关联”
It reminds me of what you had said to me when POETICA was released,
这让我想起了在《诗意》发布那会你跟我说的话
the fact that the album was your Poe,
这张专辑是你创作的爱伦坡
your connection to Poe.
也是对爱伦坡的致敬
Is MITTERNACHT related to POETICA because it is particularly autobiographical?
《午夜》之所以和《诗意》关系密切是因为它有独特的自传性质吗?
AVC:Yes, I think that Poetica and Mitternacht do belong together.
嗯,我认为《午夜》和《诗意》是一体的(下文的安娜均称AVC)
Well, at least to a certain degree...
好吧,某种程度上来说
and, yes, Mitternacht is autobiographical ...
嗯没错,《午夜》是我的自传
but then again,
但是话说回来
so are all my albums.
我的所有专辑
I have always written only about myself,
都是我的自我写照
I have never done anything else.
一直以来我的创作都是为自己,别无其他
I mean, keep in mind that SOPOR is nothing but self-therapy.
我是说,记住Sopor永远只是自我疗伤罢了
It has always been. Besides,
另外
what's the one thing that all aspiring writers are being told?
那些有抱负的创作者被灌输的最重要的一点是什么?
To bloody stick to the things that you know ...
就是去坚持那些......嗯,你了解的东西
and, well, in my case ...
就我个人而言吧
the only thing that I truly know and understand ...
一直以来我真正明白和了解的
well, sort of, anyway ... is myself. So, yes,
不管怎么说吧,也确实是自己本身
all my work is entirely autobiographical.
嗯所以,我的所有作品都是彻头彻尾的自传
Including Mitternacht.
包括《午夜》
I think another reason why both albums kind of belong together ...
另外我认为这两张专辑属于一体的另一个因素
or, well, maybe not belong together,
好吧,也不说一体
but certainly work well together,
就是映衬的如此密切
is because one followed so closely after the other.
是因为其中一个与另一个的产生非常贴切
I have said this before,
这个我虽然曾经说过
but every album is not only a consequence of the one(s) that came before,
不过每张专辑并不仅仅因前一张专辑产生
but it's also a preparation of the one(s) to follow.
可是前者可以作为一个前传去创作下一张
The thing about Poetica was ...
《诗意》的问题呢
is ... that it ended on a very sad note,
它在一个非常悲伤的点落下休止
and I couldn't leave it like that.
我本不该那么做
You know, depression may be kind of romantic at the age of 16 ,
你懂的,在16岁的时候绝望可能会赐予浪漫色彩
in a twisted sort of way,
从某种扭曲审美来说是这样子叭
but, believe me,
不过相信我
it certainly isn't anymore when you have reached my age.
换我在那个年纪绝对不会有任何浪漫色彩
To tell you the truth,
实话说吧
I was terrified. I was really afraid.
我很惶恐,很害怕
I could not leave it like this,
我不能就此将其了解
I could not let this final note linger,
让那悲伤的音符久久徘徊
echo for all eternity,
永远回荡
without dissolving, re-channling it ...
而非将其易除或者重新改写
because I just couldn't go on like this anymore.
因为我觉得酱紫我发进行下去
I could not allow this to be,
不能允许它的存在
because I felt ... I feared ...
因为我,挺慌的
that it would be the end of me.
这将会是我的创作终结
I had to find a solution.
必须找到一个解决方案
Quickly.
尽快
Which might also explain why I was under such an enormous pressure ... and why,
这解释了为什么我曾受到巨大压力
consequently,
这还解释了
this album was (and still is) so very important to me.
这张专辑曾(现在也是)变得对我至关重要
In fact,
事实上
and that's perhaps a strange thing to say ...
这事令我无法释怀
considering the contents of my past albums ...
鉴于我过去专辑的内容
but I can't remember ever having felt such a feeling of urgency about an album.
但我不曾记得我对之前的专辑有任何紧迫感
Or maybe I have and I just forgot about it,
也许我忘了
which I tend to do. So...
这也正是我想做的
I know I am repeating myself,
哎呀!人家又在絮絮叨叨啦!
but ... in my case ...
不过对我来说
there is no separation between life and art.
艺术与生活二者不可缺一
And I believe this is true for every artist,
我相信对于每个艺术家
or every true artist,
真正意义上的艺术家
regardless of talent and/or skill ...
不考虑天赋和才华
and, really,
嗯都是这样子认为
there shouldn't be a separation.
说真的,他们不可或缺
How can there be?
怎么能够呀?
Life and art ARE one.
生活和艺术是一体哒!!
They are the same thing.
它们是相同的东西
They influence each other,
互相影响
as they are forever intertwined ...
共同相连
because they are the same thing.
因为它们同根生
So, as I tried to find a solution to my ... umm,
所以呢,我正尝试去寻找
situation ...
我的处境emmm
I encountered something that caused me even greater pain.
解答的时候我遇到了更大的困境
I mean, it was ridiculous.
我觉得这简直真TM是异想天开!!!
There I was hoping to change things for the better,
我本想做出更好的改变
but it only got worse.
结果适得其反
I hadn't felt so extremely miserable in a long time.
很长时间我就没有感受到此般痛苦
There were days when I was crying on my way home ...
那段时间我都哭着回家
in broad daylight ...
就在这光天化日之下
and those were the good days.
那些日子都还好啦
On others I couldn't even get out of bed.
坏点儿的话我连床都下不了
But ...
不过
...it was all neccessary.
有些日子还是有必要的
Again, this may sound strange to some people,
重申一下,这可能对一些人来说很奇怪
but ... I am eternally grateful for this.
不过我永远对此心怀感激
I learned things that I not only had never encountered before...
我学到的不仅是我之前未经历过的
but that I tought were impossible.
而且还是我认为不可能发生的
Yes, it was painful ...
诚然,那是痛苦的记忆
but it was also very interesting ...
不过也很有趣
and very educational.
充满了教育意义
Question number two:
问题二:
Can you explain the fact that you needed to explore the question of loneliness and the need for companionship at this moment of your life?
如何解释你当下的生活状况?在解决孑然一身的孤独和对伴侣的需求方面?
AVC:Umm ... no ... things just ... happened.
喵~并不,事情总是自然而然的发生了
It was meant to happen.
该来的总会来的
It was simply time,
这就是时间本质吧
I guess.
我猜。
A natural consequence of the things that had happened before.
一连串自然事情的来龙去脉
I don't wish to appear rude,
我并不想表现的无理
but I really cannot be more specific.
但是我不能说太细
After all, the details are really nobody's business.
毕竟很多细节无关他人之事
It's just ... when I left the,
只是,当我离开
umm, "other side" (to put it this way) to re-enter the ordinary world,
呃,“另一边”(姑且那么形容)的时候重新回到我摒弃多年的大众世界
which I had abandoned so many years ago,
很多年前我就放弃了
I was instantly reminded why I had left in the first place.
我只是无数次疑问自己为什么一开始要选择离开
I just didn't belong here,
我只是不属于这里
I had no part in this.
了无牵挂
No place in it.
毫无一席之地
It's one thing to be alone on the other side,
反过来说只要在另一个世界
where there are creatures,
那里有各种奇珍
things, you can surround yourself with ...
异宝环绕着你
or even create to a certain extend ...
或者凭空创造一个
but being alone in the hostile ordinary world ...
但在这充满敌意的世界
well, that is different, and I cannot recommend it.
好吧这不一样,我不推崇这个
So, my first reaction was to turn around on the spot and go straight back into darkness,
所以我的第一反应还是继续回到黑暗里去
but ... I couldn't ... not this time ...
但这次,这次我还做不到
because that wouldn't have solved anything.
因为这暂时解决不了任何原因
It would have meant stagnation,
那将意味着停滞
and, ultimately, death.
最终意味着死亡
So I kept on walking.
所以我不会放下脚步
And that was ... yes,
但那是,嗯
almost two years ago now,
差不多两年前吧
and it's kind of ...
就是有点....
I hate the word amazing,
我有点厌恶“奇妙”这个词
I really do ...
真的
but, looking at it now,
但现在回想起来
that's really the best way to describe it ... umm,
这真的是描述它的最好方式,嗯
the things that happend in those two years,
两年前所发生的
I honestly would never have guessed could happen.
老实说吧,这事我还从没预料到
I really thought that they would never even be possible.
我真以为他们不可能发生
number three:
问题三:
Where did the idea to record a cover version of ��La Prima Vez�� come from?
录制《La Prima Vez》封面版的主意从何而来?
AVC:Oh, the idea?
噢,主意?
Uff, I don't know.
呃呵,我不懂
It just developped,
它只是刚开始发展起来吧
as it is with art.
就像艺术也是如此
You know, it grows.
你知道的,它会茁壮成长
But what I can tell you where I encountered this song for the first time.
但是我能告诉你我第一次听到这首歌是在哪里
I was watching Wim Wenders' dance-film PINA,
我在看维姆文德斯(1945年8月14日出生于德国杜塞尔多夫,导演、编剧、制作人)的舞蹈电影《PINA》的时候吧
and on the songtrack there is a version of that song by ... umm,
在歌轨上也有这么一首同名曲吧,嗯
gawd, what's his name ... Logan 5 ...?
天哪,他叫啥名字来着...罗根5?哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈!!!
No, wait ... Owain Phyfe ... feifei? ...
噢不还是叫,奥瓦恩菲菲??菲菲?嘻嘻
I don't know, whatever his name is pronounced.
呃我不懂,不管他叫啥名字
I had never heard it before,
我从未听过
but I immediately liked it.
但是我一听就知道听对了
It had a beautiful melody,
它的旋律优美
and that's what drew me to it,
这也是吸引我的原因
that's what caught my attention ...
所以彻底引起了我的注意
and, as it is often the case with these things.
而且事情不都这样子吗
Sometimes, you may not neccessarily know what it is at first,
有时候,你确认了一眼不知道它是个啥
the thing that attracts your attention.
吸引你注意力的东西
Quite often it's entirely subconscious.
很多时候它完全靠潜意识
But once you take a closer look at it,
但是你一仔细察言观色
you see what connects you to it.
你就会看到你是怎么与它联系的
You see the relevance it has for you.
你就会知道它对你有多重要
number four:
问题四:
I have to ask you the same question for "Bang Bang"
我还是要问你关于《Bang Bang》的问题
why did you chose this song?
你为何会选择这首歌?
AVC:To be perfectly honest ...
实话说吧
I cannot remember.
我记不得了
I really can't remember what gave the impulse ...
我真记不得是什么冲动
and that is actually a good thing,
不过这也是一件好事
because it means that the problem ...
不过这也意味着问题
or inner conflict,
或者内心的矛盾
if you wish ... has be solved ...
如果你想,那么就解决了
- dissolved.
瓦解了
It's a strange song to begin with.
一开始这首歌很奇怪
Silly even in the original.
即使原著里也有点傻
I mean, it was written by Sonny Bono ...
我意思是,这是桑尼博诺写的
but for whom exactly I don't even know.
到底为了谁我不知道
Either Nancy Sinatra or Cher.
不是南茜辛纳特拉就是雪儿(二者都是著名演员及歌手)
I don't know who came first.
不知道首先是谁
Iit doesn't really matter,
这不重要
anyway. Both versions are great.
不管怎么说,两个版本都很棒
Actually, Cher has many great songs.
事实上雪儿有着很多伟大歌曲
I mean, "Gypsies, tramps & thieves" is fabulous ...
我是觉得《吉普赛人流浪汉及小偷》太棒啦
but, of course, I cannot do that.
但是呢,当然我不能这么说
I mean,
我是说
for one the music sounds kind of like SOPOR anyway ...
首先歌听起来比较像Sopor
to a certain degree,
某种程度上吧
so that would be pointless.
所以这毫无意义
And, let's face it,
还是面对事实
I wasn't born on the waggon of a travelling show.
我不是在巡回表演的马车上诞生的
Thank goodness for that.
可真是谢天谢地
But back to BANG BANG ...
但是回到《Bang Bang》的问题
yes, it's a bit of a strange song ...
嗯,这是一首奇怪的歌
and, in my case,
也就对我而言
it doesn't just refer to one particular thing or person,
它不仅仅指某件事物或者人
and even keeps changing perspective.
甚至不断改变观点
It's more about a state of mind,
更多的是一种精神状态的表现
if you wish.
若你愿意
A neurotic notion ... a dependency ...
一种神经质的想法,一种依赖
the sort of thing I dealt with on the Triptychon of Ghosts.
我在Triptychon of Ghosts.略讲过一二吧
The interesting thing for me,
对我来说有趣的是
however, was that initially I thought I would ...
不过我一开始以为我会.....
well, maybe not mock it,
呃,这也许不算嘲笑
but be kind of ironic about it.
但是有点讽刺
Basically like I did it with Bonnie Tyler's "Holding out for a Hero".
就像我与邦尼泰勒坚持“为英雄挺身而出”那样
But when I was in the studio I couldn't do it like that.
但是我在录音室期间我做不到
I had to do it seriously.
我不得不认真做这事
It was the only way.
这事唯一的办法了
And it makes sense, because there is no irony on the album at all.
这是有理有据的,因为这张专辑没有任何讽刺意味
And that's actually a thing that Mitternacht has in common with Poetica.
这实际上是《午夜》和《诗意》的共同点
number five:
问题五:
Do you consider “Confessional” the heart of the album?
你认为《忏悔》是专辑核心吗?
We can understand the chorus,
我们能理解合唱部分
the mantra of the song,
这首歌的咒语
in a lot of different ways.
有不同的形式
Is that a form of supplication?
这也算是一种恳求吗?
AVC:Yes,
嗯是的
it is the heart of the album ...
这正是专辑核心
and THANK YOU for recognising ...
感谢你的观点
and yes,
嗯是的
you may very well call it a prayer.
你可以称之为祈祷
number six:
问题六:
Is the album-title “Mitternacht” a reference to the heart of the night,
专辑起名《午夜》指的是夜晚的实质吗
the symbol of the moments when the feeling of loneliness is at its strongest?
孤独感飙升时刻的一种象征?
AVC:Yes.
是哦
It's like a Dark Night of the Soul.
就像是灵魂黑暗之夜
number seven:
问题七:
When you sing ?Beautiful?,
当你唱起《美丽》的时候
do you think about someone in particular?
你会特别考虑别人吗?
AVC:Sorry, but that I cannot tell you.
抱歉,我没法告诉你
But, it is more than meets the eye ...
但这不仅是眼见为实
it's a little more complex than it might appear at first glance.
这比乍看上去要复杂许多
It seems to be very simple ...
看起来虽简单
and it is simply ...
但简单不是
but it's not one-dimensional.
没有任何深度的
number eight:
问题八:
You sing in a totally new way on certain songs like ?
你会用一种全新的方式翻唱一首歌么?
You cannot make him love you? for example.
比如《你不能让他爱你》?
Could you tell me more about this experience of the voice recordings of MITTERNACHT?
你能告诉我更多关于《午夜》的录音经验吗?
AVC:There is nothing to tell, really.
这真没啥好说啊
Recording the vocals was the same as always.
录音和往常一样
You're in the studio and then ... you do it.
你在录音室,然后,你去试试啊
If it sounds different than how I usually sound (which I don't actually think it does) it because the song,
如果它听起来和我往常听得不一样(实际上我都不这么认为)因为这首歌
the content, demanded it.
内容上嘛,要求....
number nine:
问题九:
Do you think that the "quiet" feeling of the album is due to the totally new way that you had to deal with your energy,
你认为这张专辑的“安静”是你必须养精蓄锐的新方式吗?
as you explained on your homepage?
就像你在你主页解释那样?
AVC:No, it has nothing to do with that ...
不,这没啥关系
because I do not write the music in the studio.
因为我不是在录音室里写歌
When I go the studio,
当我去录音室吧
as in when I rent studio time,
就像我租录音室那段时间
it means that the music is already completed.
就意味着音乐即将彻底完成了
Well, in theory anyway,
嗯,理论上说
because it obviously still needs to be recorded.
因为它显然还是要记下来
But the writing is done.
因为写作已经收工了
Though, admittedly,
不过,无可否认
it's never written in stone,
从来不会依靠石头写作
and there is always room for chance ...
总是会有机会的余地吧
fate, you might call it.
命运,你可以这样称呼它
Sometimes things that suddenly fall into place.
有些事情会突然发生
And then,
而后呢
yes, there are the vocals, of course.
嗯,当然也有演唱
I never know in advance what is going to happen there,
你从不知道那里会发生什么
because ... as you know ...
因为啊....如你所知
there are no rehearsals.
那里没人排练的
Would you say...oh question number ten:
你接下来会问.........噢,问题十:
Would you say that this album is "quiet",
你会说这张专辑很“安静”吗?
because you are in a quieter moment of your life?
因为你正处于生命中最安静的时刻?
AVC:Perhaps, yes.
也许吧,嗯
number eleven:
问题十一:
Music box and theremin have become an essential part of your music;
音乐盒已然成为你的音乐里的主要成分
how would you explain this?
你会为何利用这个?
Now, I feel that those instruments are SOPOR AETERNUS��
现在我觉得这些器乐演奏是永恒沉睡
AVC:Yes, indeed they are,
嗯,的确是
aren't they?!
不是吗????!!!!!!!
I agree.
我同意
I have talked about the theremin (or theremin inspired sound) before,
我之前曾说过电子琴(或者激昂的电子琴)
as in it being this beautiful bridge between the "cold" synthesizers and the warm violins.
因为它是这座美丽桥梁之间“冷”合成器的温暖小提琴
And, yes,
嗯对
there is something quirky and childlike thing about the music-box ...
音乐盒里有种古怪的孩子气
and all those percussive pling-plong instruments that keep haunting my albums,
还有些萦绕在我专辑里的敲击乐器
like the toy piano, for example.
比如玩具钢琴
......
(性感安娜在线娇喘)
When the album was recorded,
当专辑尘埃落定了
it slowly dawned on me that the damn toypiano is in every bloody song.
我渐渐意识到,没一首该死的歌里都有该死的玩具钢琴
Well, at least on the first half of the album.
至少在专辑前半部分吧
And, admittedly,
嗯,无可否认
I did worry for a second,
我确实有点担心了
thinking "have I perhaps overused this?".
想着“我是不是把这个玩过分了”?
But ...well ...
但,啊..
there was nothing to be done about it.
这事也没啥的
That's just how it was,
就酱紫叭
and how it has to be. But then again,
以及它该是怎样,但话说噢
I always worry.
我总是担心
I can't help that.
总是情不自禁
Twelve.
问题十二
Is the perspective of releasing MITTERNACHT harder than it was with the previous albums?
发行《午夜》的前景比以前的专辑更难吗?
You explained on your homepage that "it has to be done",
你在主页里说“必须做完”
but the sharing of this work seems particularly delicate for you - why?
但是这份工作对你来说很微妙噢,为什么?
AVC:Because...
因为,
Well, you have to understand that what you hear,
好吧你得明白现在听到的
when you listen to a SOPOR album,
当你在听我的专辑
is not what I hear.
不是我所听到的那样
Remember that the music is like a byproduct,
记住,音乐就是个副产品
a waste product, almost,
一种消极产品,几乎把
of a psycho-spiritual process and of magical work. What you get is only the end-product.
精神的过程和神奇的作品,你得到的只是最后的产品
Meaning, when you listen to a SOPOR album,
意思是当你听我的专辑
you only hear the "stories" ...
你只听得出“故事”
whereas when I listen to it,
换做我去听吧
I see and re-live all the events that have led to this album.
我看到并且重新度过了这张专辑的事情
So, what I am trying to say is,
所以我想说
it may very well be that what you hear is just a nice collection of singles with lyrics that may not neccessarily make any sense ...
可能你听到的是一首不错的曲子,歌词可能没有啥意义
whereas for me,
但对我来说
who has all the keys to its (I almost said "symptoms")...
谁拥有它的钥匙(差点说成病症了)
to all its symbols,
所有符号的钥匙
it's incredibly intimate and revealing.
这是令人难以置信的密切和启示
I feel naked and vulnerable.
我感受得出赤裸与脆弱
Why does it seem more delicate to me this time than with the previous albums?
为何这一次对我来说比以前的专辑更微妙?
Well,
嗯,
probably because I actually was naked...
可能因为我当时不穿衣服
and wounded.
受了伤

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