Nevermind, It's an Interview, Pt. 3

Welcome back to Nevermind it's an interview. - ST THOMAS

Inspirations comes in many forms, and for Nirvana, - ST THOMAS

it came in the form of an obscure Scottish band called the Vaselines. - ST THOMAS

Kurt and I were totally into the Vaselines, - KRIST

I mean they were my favorite band, - KRIST

they still are one of my favorite bands. - KRIST

Definitely our number one favorite band. - KURT

We finally got to play with them, they reformed to play with us, - KRIST

when we played Edinburgh, Scotland, in ah, early winter of 1990. - KRIST

So we met Eugene, and kinda kept a rap going with them- KRIST

then we heard Captain America the band,- KRIST

we heard the tape, we were totally blown away.- KRIST

Yeah, that's his new band, Captain America, they're really good. - KURT

Eugene's a great songwriter, so, yeah! - KRIST

Captain America's gotta go on tour with us! - KRIST

《Molly's Lips》

Since our record has done so well, - KRIST

we can open up doors for other bands, - KRIST

from where we come from, - KRIST

like Sonic Youth or Mudhoney, or the Melvins, - KRIST

or L7, or Dinosaur Jr. I can just go on and on and on and on. - KRIST

I guess the best part would be, - KURT

being in the position to take other bands, - KURT

whom you like a lot, on tour with you. - KURT

It's definitely a nice thing to be able to do. - KURT

We took Shonen Knife, a three piece all girl Japanese band - KURT

on tour with us in England, - KURT

and they've been a favorite of ours for years, - KURT

and no one really knows who they are in England, or anywhere in Europe. - KURT

And we've taken the Melvins on tour with us, - KURT

and in the future, we hope to take Hole, and Jesus Lizard, - KURT

and a bunch of other bands who we like. - KURT

《Stain》

But nothing really exciting happens on tour. - KURT

People think that the 'rock star life' is so exciting and it's, - KURT

y'know you play a show, - KURT

you usually get into the town by the time it's dark, - KURT

and you sound check, and you don't get to see the city, - KURT

you play the show and then you leave the next morning. - KURT

Y'know, you go to the hotel room, and you leave, - KURT

and do the same thing over and over again. - KURT

It's kinda boring in a way, I mean still I can't think of anything else I'd rather do, - KURT

but it's not as exciting as everyone thinks. - KURT

But it's getting harder for me to jump out of the audience now, - KURT

because the crowds are bigger and some of the people don't realize that. - KURT

I don't know what they realize actually, - KURT

because they're putting their hands in my pockets and - KURT

trying to steal my money and my wallet, - KURT

and they're they're hitting me really hard and scratching me, so it's ... - KURT

I dunno, after a while I'm probably not going to be able to do that anymore. - KURT

And that's too bad, cause' it's a fun little bonding thing to do with the audience. - KURT

《School》, live version

That's School from the album Bleach recorded live. - ST THOMAS

Nirvana says their next album will be different, perhaps even more like Bleach.- ST THOMAS

Well our next record's gonna be different, it's gonna be way different. - KRIST

Well I wouldn't want to put out two of the same record - DAVE

We'd like to record every song differently. - KURT

These are just ideas that we have. - KRIST

Y'know, I know, I know it's gonna be a, a record of extremities. - KRIST

I think we had our shot at doing the ah, big studio, high-tech Hollywood thing, - DAVE

whatever y'know I mean, that studio to us, was like, pretty like, techno. - DAVE

I dunno, maybe we'll do the next record on 8-track. - DAVE

That will be recorded on 8-track. - KURT

You can get more low end frequencies out of an 8-track. - DAVE

Go back to the Bleach sound. - KURT

Back to that sorta, more along the lines of Bleach. - DAVE

Cause' I really liked the production of Bleach, and I, - KURT

I dunno, I felt kinda weird straying so far away from it ... - KURT

We've got this far, with this record. - DAVE

There's definitely going to be some more abrasive songs on our next record. - KURT

Y'know, we're gonna do something, just totally test the limits. - DAVE

Really raw and abrasive, to very uh, pretty and candyish. - KRIST

All the radio listeners, or the MTV watchers, or whoever, just like, really test them, - DAVE

and shove something totally aggro, in their face, and, - DAVE

and see if they can handle that. - DAVE

《Big Cheese》

Almost anything that's musical, is pop music, as far as I'm concerned. - KURT

As long as it's good, and it's catchy, it's pop. And y'know, a lot of punk rock is pop. - KURT

I think the only time that punk rock strayed away from pop, - KURT

was when hardcore came around, y'know, and there was a lot, - KURT

y'know, real dirgy stuff also, - KURT

like the crossover metal thing, and I really can't consider a lot of that music. - KURT

Y'know, maybe one percent, of the people who are listening to Nevermind, - DAVE

that ever bought Nevermind, maybe not one percent, - DAVE

but I'm just saying that this, um, a small minority of people - DAVE

who are listening to our record now, know about punk rock. - DAVE

A lot of people don't know about punk rock. - DAVE

They think about punk rock ... - DAVE

and they think of like that Quincy episode where the guy threw the brick off the building. - DAVE

I guess, I dunno, I just don't agree with old punk rock ethos, - KURT

of like, you have to starve to be a real artist. It's ********. - KURT

《Been A Son》

We don't like to think of ourselves as a political band, - KURT

because y'know, you tend to become too anal, and it becomes ridiculous, - KURT

If you shove it down people's throats y'know, - KURT

we just ask people to be aware a little bit, - KURT

and I think the songs kinda reflect that. - KURT

It's just another issue, another topic, like we could talk about racism, - KRIST

we could talk about feminism, nationalism, I don't really subscribe to that way of thought, at all. - KRIST

There's just so much corruption going on with the government, - KURT

and the Reagan years have definitely set us back, - KURT

to where the average teenager feels kinda lost, and there isn't much hope. - KURT

They're still at least, aware of the mistakes that our parent's generation has made. - KURT

And I just think that it'll take a little bit of time for kids to start doing the duties - KURT

that they're supposed to do, which is challenge things, like corruption. - KURT

"The way American's money is budgeted by our government, - DAVE

it leaves nothing to the education system. - DAVE

Teachers are dealing with the future, y'know, - DAVE

teachers are dealing with kids growing up, who are gonna take care of me or you, someday. - DAVE

Just the education system in general, in a lot of places, is really screwed. - DAVE

Y'know, it's great to get information like that, so you can um, form your own ideas. - KRIST

It'd be neat, if like y'know, the 60's had a like, Abby Hoffman, - KRIST

or ah, John Sinclair y'know, Timothy Leary to an extent. - KRIST

And they were spokes people, and they were shaking things up, - KRIST

and nowadays, there's not really anybody. - KRIST

《Territorial Pissings》

Territorial Pissings from the multi platinum release Nevermind. - ST THOMAS

Since it's release, the album has topped the billboard charts, - ST THOMAS

and the first single Smells Like Teen Spirit has become a top-ten hit. - ST THOMAS

The success of Nevermind has taken a lot of people by surprise including the band. - ST THOMAS

I'll never get over the shock and that's kinda good. - KURT

It was, um, sort of a really, whatever, organic thing, there wasn't any massive hype. - DAVE

I mean there is definitely no big million dollar investment, in, - KURT

in promotion behind this record at all, it's totally organic, and it just happened. - KURT

Y'know, whatever's happened, is, was surely out of our control, - KRIST

and I'm glad it's happened y'know it's nice to sell that many records, - KRIST

it's nice to turn on people to something different. - KRIST

People tellin' me "Oh yeah you guy's record", "I think you guys are gonna go platinum", - KRIST

and we're like "Oh man, c'mon, y'know, if we get a gold record outta this, that'll be amazing". - KRIST

It's not my fault. I never wanted the fame involved. - KURT

That's, That's a totally different story. - KURT

I think Paul Stanley once said something like, - KURT

"Only thing that money gives you is relief of not having to worry about money." - KURT

Only thing I'd really like to do with it, is to invest in some bands that I like, - KURT

I, I don't wanna start my own record label cause God, - KURT

I know I couldn't do that. - KURT

But I'd like to give some money to some labels who're putting out great music, help in that way. - KURT

And um, probably gonna buy a house. - KURT

Hopefully we can have a recording studio too a little 8-track recording studio, - KURT

so we can make good demos. - KURT

And those are pretty much the plans and just get some new shoes. - KURT

《Smell like teen spirit》